(Left) Techie P. Bautista, Chamber of Real Estate and Builders' Associations (Creba) vice president for Academic Affairs and chairman of Creba Housing Expo, and Melesa D. Chua, Creba executive vice president and CEO of CDC Holdings Inc., are guests on 'Business and Politics,' hosted by The Manila Times Chairman and CEO Dante 'Klink' Ang 2nd. The news and public affairs program airs at 7 p.m. on Saturday, Sept. 2, 2023 on SMNI. PHOTO BY JOHN ORVEN VERDOTE